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	<title>Comments on: A collaborative open source CMS &#8211; Part 1: Early Considerations</title>
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	<description>ECM infrastructure architecture... and unrelated matters.</description>
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		<title>By: pmh</title>
		<link>http://theportableconsultant.com/blog/2005/10/24/a-collaborative-open-source-cms-part-1-early-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>pmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I couln&#039;t agree more! Plone is all that you say and more. It ranks very highly when analysed with Navica&#039;s Open Source Maturity Model - a benchmark for assessing the quality and stability of open source projects.

In fact, I used a version of Plone for my open source repository at Objectis.org (see link on sidebar).

But my current project is still in the proof-of-concept stage and a Zettai server, even at $15, is twice what I pay for a service that lets me install and compare any number of different PHP-based projects.

You make a good point, though. Perhaps I will consider using the Objectis site and add Plone to the other projects I&#039;m looking at.
 
Thanks for your comment.
-pmh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I couln&#8217;t agree more! Plone is all that you say and more. It ranks very highly when analysed with Navica&#8217;s Open Source Maturity Model &#8211; a benchmark for assessing the quality and stability of open source projects.</p>
<p>In fact, I used a version of Plone for my open source repository at Objectis.org (see link on sidebar).</p>
<p>But my current project is still in the proof-of-concept stage and a Zettai server, even at $15, is twice what I pay for a service that lets me install and compare any number of different PHP-based projects.</p>
<p>You make a good point, though. Perhaps I will consider using the Objectis site and add Plone to the other projects I&#8217;m looking at.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.<br />
-pmh</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
		<link>http://theportableconsultant.com/blog/2005/10/24/a-collaborative-open-source-cms-part-1-early-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think that you should look again at Plone-- over the long term, the fact that Plone hosting might cost a bit more than commodity LAMP hosting  is more than made up for by the quality, power and extensibility of the Plone/Zope platform.  Especially for document management and online publishing.  And especially for non-technical end-users, where Plone&#039;s UI really shines.

My organization, ONE/Northwest, has developed, launched and hosted about 45 Plone-powered sites for small grassroots nonprofit environmental organizations in the past year.  We have found it feasible to put about 60 such sites on a moderately-powered server (2 GB RAM) and that&#039;s without much effort at Squid caching.  

We charge our clients $15/month for hosting a typical small site, which easily covers the cost of the server (hosted right now at Zettai), and leaves a bit left over for maintenance.   We&#039;re expanding onto our second server this week, which will give us some room to grow even more and have more failover options.

Bottom line: we don&#039;t see Plone as &quot;too expensive&quot; to deploy even for small sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think that you should look again at Plone&#8211; over the long term, the fact that Plone hosting might cost a bit more than commodity LAMP hosting  is more than made up for by the quality, power and extensibility of the Plone/Zope platform.  Especially for document management and online publishing.  And especially for non-technical end-users, where Plone&#8217;s UI really shines.</p>
<p>My organization, ONE/Northwest, has developed, launched and hosted about 45 Plone-powered sites for small grassroots nonprofit environmental organizations in the past year.  We have found it feasible to put about 60 such sites on a moderately-powered server (2 GB RAM) and that&#8217;s without much effort at Squid caching.  </p>
<p>We charge our clients $15/month for hosting a typical small site, which easily covers the cost of the server (hosted right now at Zettai), and leaves a bit left over for maintenance.   We&#8217;re expanding onto our second server this week, which will give us some room to grow even more and have more failover options.</p>
<p>Bottom line: we don&#8217;t see Plone as &#8220;too expensive&#8221; to deploy even for small sites.</p>
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